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Others were shipped back home. It took them three full weeks. In particular, Id like to know more about their deep ancestry, before the advent of surnames. The English tried to settle them in England, Ireland, and the Colonies. Someone will benefit from the database in future research, Im sure. Johann Balthazar Loesch and Johann Emerich Bott were both her parental lineage.She did a good job of preserving the history for me and I used it to do a middle school report on my Ancestry. Religious persecution, political oppression drove thousands to Pennsylvania - to the asylum from the harrassed and depressed sons and daughters of the relics of the Reformation, whither William Penn himself invited the persecuted of every creed and religious opinion. 103. Sounds like a heart attack or stroke as it was in the middle of August when he died & we know how hot it gets in SC in that time of year. Also includes names of Palatine children apprenticed by Governor Hunter, 1710-1714. Maybe one of the other people who have replied can help out. Ive just forwarded your post to my friend Garry Finkell, president of the New York State chapter of the Palatines To America. of Gov. WebAnspach, Arendorff, Barthel, Baest, Batzin, Bauch, Bell, Bellinger, Bender, Berg, Bergman, Bernhardt, Betzer, Bierman, Blass, Bonenstiehl, Bonroth, Borst, Brack, Braun, Briegel, Bruchle, Buck, Burckardt, Busch, Clevenius, Conrad, Dachstatter, Dahles, Daether, Deuchert, Dill, Dillenbachin, Dings, Donsbach, Dopff, Dorn, Dreschler, Drumbaur, Drumm, In 1723, some thirty-three Palatine families, dissatisfied under Governor Hunter's rule, migrated from Our ancestors and related families are in red: TOP ILLUSTRATION: A rare document showing signatures of the Palatine listmasters, from 1712. Okay, Sheaffer in all of its variations is Shepard or tender of the flock, which could be a Sheep Herder or a Minister who is tending his Flock Spiritually, consequently is is anything but rare. I think someone grabbed a random hint and a bunch of others copied it. in red wax, as noted in Dr. Andrew's Guide." Daniels family was number 117 on Governor Hunters subsistence lists. Charles W. Meiser They wielded the mattock, the axe and the maul, and by the power of brawny arms rooted up the grubs, removed saplings, felled the majestic oaks, laid low the towering hickory; prostrated, where they grew, the walnut, poplar, chestnut - cleaved such as suited the purpose, into rails for fences - persevered untiringly until the forest was changed into arable field. Doris Wheeler Over 3,000 had left London England almost 6 Thank you for your comments. Surely no kindlier Its excellent! Login to post. I hope it is ok to post this here. There is a Palatine Project on FTDNA: https://www.familytreedna.com/groups/palatine-dna-project/about/background, The is a companion site for the FTDNA Palatine DNA Project at http://www.worldfamilies.net/surnames/palatine. 55 Mannor of Lobingston 25 March 1711. . to the Queen's most Sacred Majesty . Two thousand were consigned to the grave. All rights reserved. At Goshenhoppen there was a German Reformed church, organized as early as 1717. (Best for messages specifically directed to those editing this profile. Other researchers look forward to new entries on this board, so please don't hesitate to send in your Palatine and Stone Arabia ancestors. 1965. The DNA test shows some German DNA, but a lot of the DNA from the German I think gets lumped in with England/Wales/Northern Europe on Ancestry. IMPORTANT PRIVACY NOTICE & DISCLAIMER: YOU HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY TO USE CAUTION WHEN DISTRIBUTING PRIVATE INFORMATION. Liz, Roberta: This couple came to America in 1714 and were among the original settlers of the Germanna Colony in northern Virginia. 1700 Two thousand one hundred acres, granted a patent Dec. 18, 1709. Needless to say, my genealogy research is now entirely focused on trying to break down this wall. Please add your Palatine ancestors to this project. BOYD EHLE. Ill be writing about Jacob Kobels line soon. Actual passenger lists have not survived for these ships, but some have been reconstructed using other records. He died in 1737. Leave a message for others who see this profile. While They were forced to subsist on unhealthy food. 2 September 1714. This morning I heard from Nan Dixon, the author of Palatine Roots. She has a couple of copies left and will sell me one. Documentary Henry "Hank" Jones, FASG, is the leading authority on these immigrants. Jones, Henry Z. Jr. and Annette Kunselman Burgert. One hundred of them were massacred by the Tuskarora Indians, Sept 22, 1707. Note that the spellings of names on these lists should not be assumed to match the spellings that the people's baptisms and marriages were registered under in Europe. If you have not already done so, be sure to check the seminal work by Henry Z. Jones, Jr. who has written many books and articles. Finally, don't hesitate to ask other WikiTreers (in G2G) for advice regarding the reliability of a particular work. Queen Anne received them in England and sent some to Ireland to the estates of sympathetic Protestant landlords. These were two brothers, the Eckerleins of Ephrata, who left there and settle in the depths of the wilderness in 1745. Because of the relentless persecution and oppression in Switzerland, a large body of defenseless Mennonites fled from the Cantons of Zurich; of Bern and Schaffhausen, about the year 1672, and took up their abode in Alsace, above Strasbourg, on the Rhine, where they remained till they emigrated, 1708, to London, thence to Pennsylvania. Although 6 notations are given in the journal, only two are given here, 1710 and 1712. Im not experienced with GEDmatch interpretation, so I dont know the chances of a match with your people. On the day of our arrival, after finally finding our hotel, walking from a train station pulling heavy bags, we discovered that the travel agent had not made the reservation for the correct days. In 1598, St. Katherines was described as inclosed about or pestered with small tenements and homely cottages and it remained so a hundred years later when its inhabitants consisted of weavers and other manufacturers and of seamen and such who relate to shipping and are generally very factious and poor. The parish, on the Citys east side just beyond the Tower had long been a community of poor English families and foreigners. (No explanation is given when there is one set of numbers regarding the cause, death, flight, etc.). ). Also contact Germantown, Columbia County and Schoharie societies. This woodcut is part of an article describing the state of the Palatines. 20, a NY Historical Marker locates the original 1712 Palatine road to Schoharie. WebTag: Governor Hunter. Players will show growth and development and the new rookies and free agents are going to show what they have We had to find a different hotel. The colony still continued to increase. for distribution, sale, or profit. Daniel married the second time as Daniel Thevoe, a widower of Switzerland, 27 Feb. 1711, to Maria Barbara Kras, wid/o Frans Poore (New York City Reformed Churchbook). Perhaps doing business with these 1709ers while they were at St. Katherines by (or near) the stairs was the father of Simon Siron. 1711 to this time. The Queen also bestowed upon Kocherthal five hundred acres as a glebe (transcriber's note: glebe is a plot of land belonging or yielding profit to an English parish church) for the Lutheran church. I have Palatine forbears but mine went to Ireland! On the way to the first of three quilt shops, we told him about our travel snafu and the tour we had hoped to take. Better yet, we discovered that we are cousins!!! What to do? The coast, so poor and beggarly at first, and once known as the German coast, has since become the producer and the receptacle of such wealth, so as to be now know by the appropriate name of Coast of Gold. Not a few died from the ill-treatment received at the hands of the savages - some made their escape, and were dispersed in Canada. Since 1606, millions have left their homes, the dearest spots on earth, whither the heart always turns. It sure is fun to research the ancestors and the history surrounding them. They were also expected to act as a buffer between the French and Natives on the northern frontier and the English colonies to the south and east. FYI - The main research resources page is at: https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Space:Palatine_Migration_Research_Resources. After the fall of the Holy Roman Empire in 1806, the Palatine nationality came to refer specifically to people of the Rhenish Palatinate, known simply as "the Palatinate".. American Palatines, e.g. In Pennsylvania, the Newlander, tools in the hands of shipowners, merchants and importers, contributed much to induce Germans to leave their homes. They started The Old Stoney Creek Church. Corporate Information | Privacy | Terms and Conditions | CCPA Notice at Collection. The best way to start that search is to check the projects at Family Tree DNA, along with YSearch. under 10 .97 days from 25 June abating Now I know its only about 12% of my ancestors, but it still had a special meaning since it was all I knew growing up. With the offseason program underway, the depth chart is going to see some changing. Warm wishes and many thanks, With all of the frustration and disappointment, I just wanted to cry. My 5th great grandfather is Melchor Engle 1720-1760 vfrom Palatine Germany. Similar heading for 4 days 28 june to this day. A few years afterward, others followed them. So when Queen Anne of England sent a fleet of three ships up the Rhine, with promises to save them, Daniels family was on the first ship. Maria Barbaramarried Johann Jacob Schaeffer, a member of another 1709er Palatinate family. Their frail ship was, by reason of adverse winds, carried into the Delaware bay. Henry "Hank" Jones, FASG, is the leading authority on these immigrants. The faster they could make the return voyage, the more profits they could realize. (Best for messages specifically directed to those editing this profile. . There were four Board of Trade lists of the first 6520 Palatines to arrive in 1709. Always informative and superbly written. Check with the publisher to see if there is a digitized version available or if they will republish soon. WebFirst Wave of Immigration of Palatines In June 1710 Governor Robert Hunter and 2,400 Germans arrived in New York from England. In 1711 gypsies were described as this race of vermin., By the beginning of August, the people of London had visited their camps and the poor Palatine refugees had not lived up to their billing. WebThis list contains the appendix of Ulrich Simmendingers pamphlet. He and another German minister, at the request of the Board of Trade, made a census of the Palatines in New York in 1718. p. Hi Roberta, Im trying to confirm/rule out the surname Schaffer as that of his 5th great-grandmother. They were initially crowded into St. Katherines, also written as St. Catherines, today known as St. Katherines by the Tower. WebThis project analyzes the DNA of men who descend along the DIRECT MALE LINE from the Palatine men who left Germany during the early 18th century, DURING THE PERIOD 1708-1710 OR SOON THEREAFTER. Embarkation Lists to England, 2nd to 6th Sailings. Im a direct descendant of Palatine Wilhelm Johann Pulver. Richard (also of Palantine descent). They had been reduced to the most extreme poverty. Irish] and returned to England and Germany Of the Landlords who successfully managed to induce their allotment of Palatine immigrants to remain in rural Ireland, the most successful was Sir Thomas Southwell of Castle Matrix near Rathkeale, Co. This could not have come at a better time as we had planned to meet this week to discuss how we might incorporate DNA genealogy into encouraging more people to research their 1709 Palatine ancestors. Thank you so much for this article. I need to check and see if you match any of my Miller cousins. At different periods, various causes and diverse motives induced Germans to abandon their Vaterland. Thats exactly how I felt when I discovered them as well. and News on behalf of the descendants of the Palatinate. Penn's liberal views, and illiberal course of the government of New York toward the Germans, induced many to come to this Province. 45. I am descended from their daughter Agnes, who married Johannes Fischbach, also original Germanna Colony settlers. ). England became desperate to get rid of this group of people they hadnt wanted nor invited and who couldnt support themselves. Roberta, I have spent so much time working on AtDNA that the Y is totally new to me.I did test at FTDNA and my results were R-M269 and my surname is Sheaffer I thought I may be able to contribute since you specifically mentioned Johann Peter Schaeffer (born c1640). Other Palatine families Im descended from include Feg/Feck, Koch, Helmer, Hilts, and Dornberger. Beast Masters will be able to add an exotic pet to their collection in the form of the Magmasnail. Prior to 1770, the wilderness of Pennsylvania was penetrated beyond the Allegheny Mountains. By Sarah Fitzpatrick, Tom Winter, Ken Dilanian and Michael Kosnar. According to the Irish Palatine Association, The Landlords of Irish estates wanted to increase the Protestant tenant population In September 1709, almost 3000 Palatines were relocated to rural Ireland, with a roughly equivalent number being transported to New York and North Carolina. During the Spanish and French War, in 1746, Waldoborough was laid in ashes by some Canadian Indians. 1710 This was just the beginning of the tidal wave. The German Palatines were natives of the Electorate of the Palatinate region of Germany, although a few had come to Germany from Switzerland, the Alsace, and probably other parts of Europe. I am descended from several Palatinate families on my fathers maternal line who settled in the Mohawk Valley, NY: Baum, Seeber (Seibert), who sons were soldiers in the Revolutionary War in the Tryon Militia. About 470 died on the voyages. Gerhart Walrath & Anna Maria Reffi are married. Enjoy! They settled in (I canr remember off the top of my head what the county was called at the time of their migration, so Ill say this:) what was known as Orange County, NC. Germans massacred, north of the Blue Mountain, within Monroe county, among other were: Guldin, Hoth or Huth, Bomper, Vanaken, Vanflor, Schnell, Hartman, Hage, Brundich, Hellman, Gonderman, Schleich, Muller, Vandelap, Decker, Van Gondie, Brinker. Having entirely overrun all buildings available, they lived in tents in squalid conditions and the local London people came to view them as entertainment. WIKITREE PROTECTS MOST SENSITIVE INFORMATION BUT ONLY TO THE EXTENT STATED IN THE TERMS OF SERVICE AND PRIVACY POLICY. Thank you for this warm and humanizing story of our Palatine ancestors (I have more than 50 direct ancestors among the 1709ers who settled in the Hudson Valley after enduring St. Katherines). ), whom that devoted minister of the cross, the Rev. St Johnsville NY Enterprise genealogy Bruce Romanchak, Im so glad that Bruce Romanchak made me aware of this article! One reason is the revelation last week that the Biden for President campaign helped to organize the open letter that spread disinformation about Hunter Bidens famous Persons who have lately visited them say, "They are the most wealthy and prosperous farmers in the county of Limerick." On the old map, this would have been just in front of the St. Catherines church a place certainly familiar to the 1709ers who were assuredly praying daily for deliverance of some sort. WebCONTACT US Traditions Performance Firearms 1375 Boston Post Road P.O. Please enable JavaScript in your browser's settings to use this part of Geni. About 1728 and 1729, the Germans crossed the Susquehanna, located within the present limits of York and Adams county, and made improvements under discouraging circumstances. His findings, which include beautiful photographs of the villages where immigrants originated, and the old churches where they worshipped, have been published: Jones shares the following strategies, learned from experience, for genealogists who wish to trace the German origins of Colonial Americans: Many of these families appear in Reformed and Lutheran church books in New York. 860-388-4657 Email: [email protected] Of course he could also do mtDNA and follow his mothers line if that is Palatine. Their first child, Maria Anna Devoe was born about 1700 in the Palatinate on the Rhine. ). WebHunter Lists. March 31, 2022 March 31, 2022 Ronald L. Fake. I would invite and encourage any Kobel (or similar spelling) male to join. She wasnt old. Login to post. About the same time 50 Palatine families were working to clear the way thru' the woods, a 15 mile trail to the promised land, Schoharie. Mr. Jones summary at the start of his books has even more details about what they suffered in Germany, the years in transit, as well as after arrival in the American Colonies. In 1751, invited by those in authority, thirty German families, and in 1752, fifteen hundred individuals from Europe, persons of means, settled in Maine. Katherine by the Tower.. Given that I certainly cant test my Y DNA (females dont have Y DNA) for the 1709er lines, I need to find males who descend from these family lines to test. From In Colleton county, on the north bank of North Ediston river, 12 miles from its mouth, stands Wilton, or New London, consisting of 80 houses built by Swiss under the direction of Zuberbhuler, with leave from the Assembly. Many of the migrants who lived near each other in New York, came from the same hometowns in Germany. Contact the Profile Managers privately: Public Comments: Hereafter, the influent accession from the European continent steadily increased, so much so, as to excite attention, and create no small degree of alarm of the "fearful of the day". In the spring of 1734, some Lutherans, known in history as Saltzburgers, from Saltzburg, a city of Upper Austria, arrived in Georgia. I checked the Family Tree DNA Y database and discovered no Cobel, Kobel or derivative surname, so I started the Kobel/Coble Y DNA project. Their descendants forgot the German language, and have adopted the French; but the name of many clearly indicate the blood coursing in their veins; nevertheless more than one name has been so frenchified as to appear of Gallic parentage. While on a trip to Philadelphia with The Chief, Conrad Weiser met Benjamin Franklin. At that time, these accommodationswere tenements by the docks in an unsavory area. Ret paladin does great in both PvE and PvP (though his rotation is I am very proud of my family.all branches and all they have done. With the help of the hotel, we were able to do so, but it took a couple of hours that we didnt have to spend. The vines froze and put thousands of people out of work including Daniel. Hi, new bern NC was also settled in 1710 by German and Swiss including palatines. Well, here I am having just discovered the 1709s and that my husband appears to have been descended from the Kuntzlis and Islers of the New Bern group. WebOverview. . 61 days 5th August to this day. If you go to http://www.irishpalatines.org, youll see a list of Irish Palatine family surnames. . An intensely built-up 23 acre site was earmarked for redevelopment by an Act of Parliament in 1825, with construction commencing in May 1827. There were also many Germans residing in Savannah; besides some forty of fifty Moravians in the same state under the pastoral care for the Rev. List - Master Conrad Weiser's camp was at Queensbury. These are palatines who settled in NY State. Often these sources are the best (or only) information we have to work with regarding an individual or a family group. This page was last edited on 6 December 2022, at 01:08. The letter accompanying the Ration Lists fromt he London compilers will be Ten thousand died for want of sustenance, medical attendance, and from other causes. The assembly highly approved of this scheme; to assist him in the execution of it, they passed an act, August 20, 1731, which secured to him a reward of 400, upon his bringing over to Carolina a hundred effective men. Ancestors, Voting Rights, & William Penn October 31, 2022. A type of pike. Beautiful buildings on what is now a beautiful setting. Dixon, Nancy Wagoner. It is a fish found in the Swiss lakes. Yay! From his son Cornelius line. The locality was unpropitious. This, the mission among the Indians in Georgia, after a promising beginning, was at once suspended. Joshua Kockerhal, with a small band of his persecuted Lutheran brethren, embarked at London 1708, for New York, where they arrived in December, and shortly therafter he, with his little flock, settled on some lands up the Hudson river, which they had received from the crown of England. That travel snafu turned out to be a lovelygift in disguise! England was bringing large quantities of cargo back from the colonies and to make the process more profitable they needed cargo for the western-bound journey also. THANK YOU so much for all of this information on The German Palatinates. You can find it under Geographic projects. Palatines 1710-1713 each having the certificates and the seal of New York Epic Urgent Care PC. (Being somewhat ostracized by his family for his religious views, Simon had immigrated to Pennsylvania in 1733. Links to external web sites are being provided as a convenience and for informational purposes only; they do not constitute an endorsement or approval of any of the products, services or opinions contained in any external web site. Several such wells are to be found in the locality but some have been partly filled in for safety purposes. From this settlement they spread into several counties in Virginia, and into North Carolina. Statement July 4th: From this area on the Thames near St. Katherines, you can see Tower Bridge, locatedbeside the Tower of London. The orphans were apprenticed by Governor Hunter, to citizens of New York and of New Jersey. Unfortunately for myself I descend through my mother. So American. The survivors were transported to English colonies in America. Ancestry Family moves to Schoharie Area 1712-1722 February 13, 2019. Katharine Docks and The Dickens Inn on the current map above, in the lower righthand quadrant. Aug. 12th: Ten sails of vessels were freighted with upwards of four thousand Germans for New York. They lived some time at German town, and in the vicinity of Philadelphia. If your dad has the surname youre looking for, I recommend that he take a Y-DNA test (FamilyTreeDNA.com). Today I found a FABULOUS resource for Palatine history in the Mohawk Valley: the newspaper St Johnsville NY Enterprise, which ran genealogy and history columns from about 1920 to the 1950s (a Mohawk Valley version of the Boston Transcript). Jacob Cobels wife was Anna Marie Egli and they had daughter Maria Barbara after their arrival in the US. The 1709ers, by contrast, wererather unskilled rural laborers, neither sufficiently educated nor healthy enough for most types of employment. The port of Philadelphia showed the impact of the German recruitment. (Then He was Johann Friedrich Haegar, the son of Johann Henrich Haegar and Anna Catherine Friesenhagen. (N), New York city. Expert Palatine genealogist Henry Z. Jones also wrote an enjoyable book called: Psychic Roots: Serendipity & Intuition in Genealogy, quoting the experiences of many professional genealogists. Also, the book are looking for was published not long ago. Hunter were consulted and all the names of heads of families drawing rations and not to be reproduced http://doriswheeler.org/ui24.htm, Doris, Thank you for the reply. Settlements were effected within the present bounds of Westmoreland and other eastern counties of this state. Average annual salary was $99,533 and median salary was $99,696. There was no relief of any kind from the government and many people were starving. Some Mennonites coming from the Netherlands, settled along the Pakilmomink (Perkioming) and Schkipeck (Skippack) a few years later. At Elizabethtown, where the first English settlement was made in New Jersey, 1664, there were many Germans prior to 1730. The New York City Reformed Churchbook confirms he was from Switzerland, but spells his name Theroux.. . Its possible they too were some of the 1709 group. WebThe following list of Tryon County, New York residents being held by the British was found in the Revolutionary War Rolls in the United States' National Archives by Fort Plank Historian Ken D. Johnson on June 4, 2008. Roberta, Weve continued to move west. . Here they remained til late in autumn, when about fourteen hundred were removed, one hundred miles up the Hudson river, to Livingston Manor. Theres a lot of potential there. Despite the term "Palatine," Jones discovered that many of the families did not originate in the area of Germany known as the "Palatinate" (Pfalz in German). In the fall of 1709, one hundred and fifty families, consisting of six hundred and fifty Palatines, were transported, under the tutelar auspices of Christian De Grafferied and Ludwig Michell, natives of Switzerland, to North Carolina. The hotel was gracious and called us a taxi, and a few minutes later our driver arrived, ready to take us anyplace we wanted. Jones notes the religious flexibility of these early German immigrants. The Moravians made no permanent settlement in Georgia. There have been many different spellings over time. May 1, 2023 7:30 am CT. According to a lecture by Dr. George Schweitzer, a highly regarded genealogical researcher, ship owners were very actively recruiting German settlers to the colonies at this time. Many switched from Catholicism to Protestantism in the New World.[3]. the summer of 1931 Mr. Boyd Ehle through his London agents caused a search They were those of whom Governor Thomas said, 1738: 'This Province has been for some years the asylum of the distressed Protestants of the Palatinate, and other parts of Germany; and I believe, it may truthfully he said, that the present flourishing condition of it is in a great measure owing to the industry of those people; it is not altogether the fertility of the soil, but the number and industry of the people, that makes a country flourish.'.

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