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Note: This is ONLY to be used to report spam, advertising, and problematic (harassment, fighting, or rude) posts. (More Testing needed but you might not need a mining laser for Automining). When buying your ship manually make sure you select captain. Set to mine everything on its list. :) I don't have the details unfortunately will go look for a link. by Snafu_X3 Mon, 17. Some of the other miners for the other races have been reported to have problems with selecting them as AutoMiners (Still Testing Please Report if they Work). by Hador Thu, 13. Nov 20, 15:48, Post In X4 Foundations there is a type of ship called Miners. Had this happen, they just dont do anything anymore! With double the current travel speed I was getting 4x as a Magnetar, but i scaled it down so it's only semi-ludicrously fast, still about 3x throughput of a Magnetar. Teladi sentinel carriers make good traders. 2. Regular transports wont do it. Depending on rarity, crystals can be quite valuable when sold to Item Traders (see "Items versus Wares" section above). It's only done automatically by giving the ship the order to mine gas. Automine will Automatically choose where to mine, and where to sell. The other thing that has been witnessed is the miner dumping some of his load, than going off to sell it. Note: This is ONLY to be used to report spam, advertising, and problematic (harassment, fighting, or rude) posts. They have the built in TradeWare). Yield has a huge influence on how long it takes a miner to fill up. Morrowind May Modathon and Skywind Gameplay Preview. (not sure if this is cause maybe you passed by something and updated it) but yeah satellites are key to fast service. . Please post any spoilers for X4: Foundations here. X4: Foundations; X4: Foundations - Spoilers; X4: Foundations - Technical Support; X4: Foundations - Scripts and Modding; Construction Community; This forum is the ideal place for all discussion relating to X4. What to do? A Split commander walks into a bar, gets drunk and decides to become a miner. What one should take from it is that all faction traders and miners operate in the same order of magnitude as far as moving stuff goes. Cost about 300-400k a ship. No sat coverage auto-miners and traders can't see them I believe. 5. . Dec 18, 16:41, Post (LogOut/ For our purposes, we are going to need a good old-fashioned miner. PAR Chthonios (Gas): 62603520; Finding 3: Best Ships In Each Category. Aug 19, 00:51, Post If it has ores Dump them. Nvidium yields are always very low, but you also don't really need it much aside from a few research projects. Set it free. and our Do Not Sell or Share My Personal Information. All trademarks are property of their respective owners in the US and other countries. X4: Foundations, Cradle of Humanity, add the Terrans into the game and with them a whole load of new ships. Mercury makes more sense early for helium mining. 3. The mine command will only have the resources at that location. Select which one you want this vessel to mine.. You can do up to three I belive. leinardi 2 yr. ago. Comm him and select option for him to start. Well go into behavior and Delete the Automine order for its no longer the default order. ok imeant for 4.10 then, they really nerfed mining to hell it is not fun anymore to do. Can have a bunch of defensive turrets and just couple mining (keep NPC safe). To see if there was something wrong with the system, I ordered one gas and one ore miner to "auto-mine." Through that command, both are getting helium and ore. . by j.harshaw Tue, 27. Crystal mining: Some asteroids have surface spots that can be individually mined away to release various types of crystals. Rinse and repeat. Nividiim is 220k per trip. Than go into your info tab (the one right next to behavior tab) and go check out your Miners Inventory.. This author has not provided any additional notes regarding file permissions, This author has not credited anyone else in this file, This mod is not opted-in to receive Donation Points. by Vectorial1024 Mon, 26. 3. It's only done automatically by giving the ship the order to mine gas. (LogOut/ You have to buy a ship that is a mining vessel. 9. . https://www.egosoft.com:8444/confluence/display/X4WIKI/X4+Wiki+Home. close. 5. Computer Science student, suddenly dissident. by Buill Mon, 17. The Terran Bolo is a medium (M) class ship that can mine minerals and has a variant that can collect gaseous resources. Saving up to get a large Miner with crew and just wondering what is more profitable, Minerals or Gas? From what i know it also depends on the sector, how many nodes there are to mine and how far to travel so some are better than others. So far i have not seen any changes in yields in 4.1. Took me a while to find it). Mining Ships are the back bone of the entire economy of the game almost all items are produce or require raw materials in there production chain either directly or . Also feel free after reading Blog to check out our Affiliate Site: So my first auto miner set up in argon prime is working flawless. Large miners have the benefit of having larger cargo holds. Dec 18, 03:52. These ships vary in size and are usually slower moving ships primarily used to mine minerals or liquids from space. But they are much more expensive! Also M's can use the highway, speeds things up, Large tend to mess around going behind the gates, txting their mom, filling in their tax returns etc.. You can always hack the station storage spilling out all their goodies and making sure the station needs a new supply (perhaps even allowing you to fill it with their old one.). Aug 19, 14:04, Post Including their game start. Two Tabs show up. Wed, 12. Best would be to start with Gas as that doesn't attract khaak. 6. There is no Mining Software to buy its included in the ship. We need to restart Automine and dont want to confuse it. Aug 19, 09:16, Post If your AutoMiners Get STUCK!! If you dont have satellites he will eventually find something. finally rather the bad coding of mining!! 3. 11. Please log in using one of these methods to post your comment: You are commenting using your WordPress.com account. 6. by Miravlix Thu, 13. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Design a site like this with WordPress.com, X4 Foundations How To Build A StationGuide, X4 Foundations Custom Logo, Ship PicturesGuide. There is no manual gas mining. Last edited by Wraith ; Jun 28, 2021 @ 2:12am. anarnam Dec 26, 2018 @ 5:48am. If you can get level 3 miners later on, you can place them almost everywhere, because they can switch between different resources and have a 2-3 jump range to look for resources and customers. 1 ship with speed 1 and cargo hold 2 V should be just as effective as 1 ship with speed 2 and cargo hold 1 V. (When former ship completes 1 round-trip, latter ship will have completed 2 round-trips, but both ships have delivered the same amount of stuff). Select the miner and right click the purple or blue region. 1. Wares allows you to select which Ores your Captain will grab. Ice 40K per trip. #4. by Vectorial1024 Mon, 26. Also, large miners are largly unprofitable. Its a perfectly viable option for people starting their mining empire with a little capital but can get more profit then the small size. I've noticed that not that many stations demand gas. Aug 19, 09:36, Post When it comes to X4: Foundations, finding the best mining ship can be a daunting task. The Ore doesn't make a huge amount of money compared to Silicon, but they still pay for themselves eventually and feed the refined metals factories so my sector traders there can grab it. Mercury is a great location for a dual use station where it sells energy, and shipping energy to one of your other stations with repeat orders. Dec 18, 00:27, Post It's not world hunger because we can't feed poor,it's because there will never be enough to feed the rich .. 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Dec 18, 11:53, Post by ballti Mon, 26. Humans are deuterostomes, which means that when they develop in the womb the first opening they develop is the anus. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. I flew for several minutes (in addition to an exploration fleet) expanding the sector to very large and could not locate the end of the patch. ARG engines are usually the best since they have highest travel speed. When size of cargo hold increases, DR should increase. Aug 19, 16:39, Post X4: Foundations features a number of mining opportunities. 9 M turrets, 6 of which can be used for guns, and 3 shields. In this X4 Foundations tutorial we look at how to mine. i don't have any hard numbers or evidence, but the Split ships seem to be doing pretty well, the miner variants top off the solid + liquid storage at a pretty damn decent speed. X4: Foundations > General Discussions > Topic Details. May 20, 05:00, Post What ship type should I buy? by (/\)arped Wed, 12. 8. The gas miner should mine 2x-3x more than a Magnetar (didn't test mineral miner). I'm sorry I've got no answer to the question, because I'm looking for it also !! X4 Foundations mod: . This is a Auto Mining Guide for X4: Foundations. Dec 18, 23:17, Post But the best way are stations. 5. I know about Eighteen Billion but sadly I've oversupplied that sector and I'm having a hard time shipping goods out of it so the methane production stays high. Cost about 300-400k a ship. He creates 3 prototype miners with cutting edge space-pokeball storage technology to fit 900k units in each ship. Below this you have two choices Gate Distance and Wares. #5. Dec 18, 23:26, Post March 30, 2021. There is no manual gas mining. Mining drones don't seem to scale out-of-sector, 800 vs 20 is same mining speed (give the ship a bunch of defenders and repair for lolz-level safety). You only need 1 Mining laser on your vessel. Only reason come up within he only looks for one spot to sell his ores, if they only need 500 of them and he has 900, he will dump 400 and sell the 500, than go back to mining. The AI while being rendered is garbage and he will crash into things and all kinds of strange things. Try to be OOS (OUT OF SYSTEM). Do add the Docking Computer Mk2 though just in case you need to manually land it at some point. It turns out the Chthonios is still the winner. Or that you have restricted the range of your miner such that it can't get to the buyer station within that gate limit. Dont be in sector with them! These ships vary in size and are usually slower moving ships primarily used to mine minerals or liquids from space. by Ezarkal Mon, 17. I guess this means the game determines that PAR engines are best. Manage an empire or EXPLORE space in first person. Scan this QR code to download the app now. Nov 20, 01:45, Post I've got 2 Silicon and 4 Ore miners in Argon Prime. Press CTRL + D to BOOKMARK so you can check back for Updates! Dec 18, 18:13, Powered by phpBB Forum Software phpBB Limited. The powerful open-source mod manager from Nexus Mods. Warfs sell Small Vessels and Medium Vessels. Much more efficient by far. However, one of the most important factors in choosing a mining ship is its size - M or L. The M and L miners have their unique features that make them . Aug 19, 14:47, Post If you have no satellites around stations and you yourself are not at a station (showing trade values) your miner is going to dump his cargo and go back to mining. Change), You are commenting using your Facebook account. These ships are meant for NPC mining out-of-sector (doesn't work right with manual mining). Mining Ships are the back bone of the entire economy of the game almost all items are produce or require raw materials in there production chain either directly or indirectly so the are a very reliable source of money for players. But it will take forever. by mr.WHO Tue, 27. Why? (they dont have the built in software. Dec 18, 01:16, Post by Nikola515 Thu, 13. 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If you haven't found a resource patch with at least 1.5/km for minerals or 0.2/km for gas don't even bother, and those are still very much at the low end. Nov 20, 13:17, Post Originally posted by Xandriany: So far I think medium miner silicon is best 70k per trip. Faster your vessel the quicker it will go back and forth from Mining and Selling. Mining Help. (The bastards were asking for 19/km. My gas miner has drones and auto collects gas but then he stands still and don't sell it. It will depend on where you set it tup, the skil lof teh crew and if you have prospected the area. All rights reserved. Aug 19, 02:21, Post ). On start you get a random amount depletness, but the max amount is always the same. X4 Manual: Note: This is ONLY to be used to report spam, advertising, and problematic (harassment, fighting, or rude) posts. When all done Select Confirm to make all the changes Stick. by Hador Wed, 12. All trademarks are property of their respective owners in the US and other countries. All trademarks are property of their respective owners in the US and other countries. Large miner have the positive benefit that they are much more powerful than mediums and will survive pirate attacks a lot better. Espaol - Latinoamrica (Spanish - Latin America), https://forum.egosoft.com/viewtopic.php?f=146&t=433686&p=5010773#p5010773, https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2530480881. You will also find additional information from developers here. 80% or more of the time your trader will be in travel speed and so Arg Travel Mk3 makes a huge difference. Nov 20, 00:35, Post All rights reserved. I think you need to just fly in gas and it will automatically collect gas (that's what I heard anyway). Once its dumped you are now clear to Restart AutoMine just like you did before. Hey people. X4 Foundations Auto Mining AutoMine Guide. i dont care if its ore,ice,silicon i just need to make some money with miners before i move on to trading, thank you. Just a simple question. i am mining and grand exchange on for ore and one for silicon but they having trouble finding ore takes a very long time to fill up the hull i will look at the other spots you mentioned thx. Dec 18, 04:52, Post Do you need crew? The gas miner should mine 2x-3x more than a Magnetar (didn't test mineral miner) Valve Corporation. X4 Wiki: Moderator: Moderators for English X Forum, Post chevron_left. Nov 20, 18:14, Post Install hundreds of mods with the click of a button. Average storage for a miner mineral lets say, is 5k, lets say your large miner hold 20k, average cost for 4 M miners to meet that is 1.2mil, it's 3.5 mil ort something for a large miner. This forum is the ideal place for all discussion relating to X4. Regarding efficient L miners, I considered mining speed more crucial than travel speed. Unlike the mineral variant you do not need a weapon . X4: Foundations. Dec 18, 22:35, Post Faster your vessel the quicker it will go back and forth from Mining and Selling. When travel speed increases, DR should increase. So far the best medium miner is the Argon Drill.. (that's the name of the ship Drill) The Sunder Is a Gas (Liquid) miner. Which to use should be based on personal preference or other characteristics instead of purely a theoretical haulage number for one type of movement. Gas mining in X4: Foundations is not very intuitive as it doesn't work like normal mining. There are a plethora of mining ships available, each with its own set of features and unique abilities. 4. Do NOT follow your AI pilot and watch him work. Before we continue, let's be clear: the game uses PAR Combat Engine Mk3 // PAR All-round Engine for calculating the max travel speed of ships. 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Grand exchange is still a good place (at least for my game) Ore is definitely the one to mine for at the start and always use 2 star miners at the very beginning to increase mining speed. > You don't even need to put mining turrets on a ship, it'll still mine just fine. by teleportationwars Mon, 26. also using resource probes helps, i believe it helps the miners locate the best nodes to mine. You can do whatever you want now. Copyright 2023 Black Tree Gaming Ltd. All rights reserved. Moderator: Moderators for English X Forum, Post Im trying to find out what systems are great for mining and solar power, Im playing as a Terran cadet but its been over a year since Ive played the game so Im a little bit rusty. Go to Behavior tab. Try flying around a bit & dropping some more.. by CaptDom Tue, 4. The small size variants are usually not considered for mining when players usually get decent capitals due to their smaller cargo capacity and weaker mining drills. All rights reserved. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. by sentenced-1989 Wed, 11. Manage all your favorite fandoms in one place! Change). Having Satellites around all local Stations will help speed this up. Hi guys, recently new to the X series, I've worked out how to set up auto mining etc, but I've noticed that my miners take absolutely forever to mine anything, i mean i had a play session of about 3 hours and one of miners only filled about 1/3 . The Hermes vanguard may not be the most efficient trader, but it is the fastest and thus least likely to die. I am trying to figure out the following: Resource probes only cover a tiny area (current encylclopaedia data says range=3km). Aug 19, 16:29, Post Dec 18, 23:23, Post In X4 Foundations there is a type of ship called Miners. Your pilot will sometimes wait with a full load for a few minutes. by sentenced-1989 Fri, 13. Select Max settings then immediately set to min settings (this gives you a better pilot - its a bug). by PrivatePanic Wed, 11. Remove all the consumables you dont need for a ship you wont fly except maybe a few sats to drop off now and again remotely. Already made me 250000 in 4 runs. All rights reserved. It bizzare me why Argons have so many L-size freighters when I only ever use Shuyaku sentinel. by Aquitaine Sun, 24. If your vessel is attacked and survives they will help with repairs and I believe give a bonus for turrets. Meaning they will give you more money when the Captain turns in his haul. There is an easier way then the automine behavior, if you've scouted the sector but don't have resource probes down. Fly every ship, TRADE and FIGHT to BUILD your empire with modular station construction and THINK carefully when embarking on an epic journey. (I buy the license and don't bother with sats before I can buy those). X4: FOUNDATIONS, the long awaited sequel in the long running X series brings our most sophisticated universe SIMULATION ever. Warren1986 Jun 8, 2021 @ 3:12am. The elegant, powerful, and open-source mod manager, Download and manage all your collections within Vortex, Upgrade your account to unlock all media content, To enjoy the benefits of Nexus Mods, please log in or register a new account. You cant really mess it up, the game wont let you purchase the ship without the software requirements. Aug 19, 00:24, Post Re: Gas mining basics. by dtpsprt Wed, 11. He is looking for somewhere to sell his Ores. ok will try that, still no methane! And your done. Sorry I was wrong the changes were indeed in 4.0: for small scale mining it really doesnt matter what sector, so long as someone will buy whatever you're mining. 5. Valve Corporation. Your forward facing guns can be used for mining and you will be all set. Information and Behavior. 13 Getting the trade subscription for a race/faction, while expensive, it provides trade info for all discovered stations, present and discovered in the future. Nowhere to really sell helium. Recently added 51 View all 2,177. . When logged in, you can choose up to 12 games that will be displayed as favourites in this menu. Currently Ive been only working at the rings of Saturn but I would like to learn about a few other systems with a high volume of asteroids. Moderator: Moderators for English X Forum, Post 4. Dec 18, 22:26. (I say roughly, because the game could only display mass up to the nearest ton; decimal values are discarded. Games. 12 The Advanced Sat has a range of 75km whereas the regular Sat only has a range of 30km for gathering info. May 20, 04:35, Post Good luck. Could be you don't have satellite coverage of stations that buy gas. Choose AutoMine. As with mineral fragments, the Container Magnet can speed up collection. You can buy good mining vessel Medium size at a Warf. The mass of the Sentinel Variant is roughly 1.2 times of the Vanguard Variant. Of course to mine you need a vessel. They are affordable and easily obtainable at Warfs. Everything paranid is better. You will also find additional information from developers here. I would like to also make a few stations, one made primarily for mining, one for solar power for energy cells, and one for large production and to be my home base, if I remember correctly one of the Terran systems is insanely good for solar panels, does anyone know which system it is? Valve Corporation. by Imperial Good Sun, 24. So far I think medium miner silicon is best 70k per trip. by mr.WHO Thu, 12. M miners have a mining loop delay which means that those which finish in full cycles (minimal wasted time) have a huge efficiency improvement. Nov 20, 02:45, Powered by phpBB Forum Software phpBB Limited. by burger1 Tue, 27. Silicon require a good captain and other factors to mine at a good rate in 4.0. by Nikola515 Thu, 13. Dec 18, 17:01, Post Cookie Notice You need a captain on your ship to automine. by Gregorovitch Thu, 13. You need a big (L) ship to do it, it needs drones, and only the A. S Freighters: ARG Courier; S Miners: ARG Courier . [4.10 with all expansions] Good places for gas mining. I think there are mining changes (like, per sector yield changes) in 4.10 so be wary looking for 4.0 specific advice. Aug 19, 22:56, Post by (/\)arped Thu, 13. by Karmaticdamage Tue, 27. Anyone can tell me where are good sectors to mine with close refineries nearby with the 4.0 update? Good luck. Life is but hollow, desolate is tomorrow. Hydrogen 30K per trip. Go to Middle of Behavior Tab and select Default behavior. I'll stick to my mercury sentinels, only ever lost one that's because it went venturing into xenon territory for some reason. This is a Auto Mining Guide for X4: Foundations. From what we can tell once your miner fills his hull, he searches for a place to sell your goods. Remove all the consumables you dont need for a ship you wont fly except maybe a few sats to drop off now and again remotely. So far the best medium miner is the Argon Drill.. (thats the name of the ship Drill) The Sunder Is a Gas (Liquid) miner. Silicon's definitely the most profitable, but it depends on what's needed in the area. But at the beginning you can place maybe 30-40 auto miners that way, I would say 40% gas collectors. This avoids pile ups of incoming drones competing with departing drones for landing pads. but there are some stations who would buy in range. What are some good sectors for auto mining gas? X4: Foundations Wiki is a FANDOM Games Community. 1. Hey for guys manning for awhile are your miners running out of resources to mine? Aug 19, 14:54, Post This includes miners, of course. Raptor900k Experimental Miners (universal - gas - mineral). Basically making the whole process extremely long. Do add the Docking Computer Mk2 though just in case you need to manually land it at some point. Dec 18, 16:08, Powered by phpBB Forum Software phpBB Limited. For the gate Distance thats pretty simple.. how many jumps do you want the AI to go to sell its Ores once its filled? Nividium, but once everyone has that, it's silicon. Only change is in The Void with the radiation now dealing damage even when you are not present. Your pilot will wait for you to contact him to start his mission. yes, did anybody know, thar Asteroids respawn? So they gather more ores in a single run. Espaol - Latinoamrica (Spanish - Latin America). Log in to view your list of favourite games. https://www.egosoft.com:8444/confluence/display/X4WIKI/X4%3A+Foundations+Manual If you have turrets use those for Defense Guns. by Vectorial1024 Wed, 28. They are affordable and easily obtainable at Warfs. 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Privacy Policy. He will go off and make you money passively. When logged in, you can choose up to 12 games that will be displayed as favourites in this menu. It's just that they don't require inputs. marked the ones where my miners go to (should have satelites and probes in all sectors). Thats why its called a Mining vessel! Skyblade May 25, 2020 @ 3:41pm.